In this discussion, the panelists will begin with Dune: Part Two, delving into character archetypes, scene-related aesthetics, and cosmological themes. They will explore the tension between the "cooling" of grand narratives in literary and artistic creation versus the humanization of individual/minute narratives—and the contradictions between them. Additionally, they will compare cultural differences in grand narratives between the West and the East: How do these perspectives diverge?